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Wayne Mapp

Q+A's Guyon Espiner interviews Dr Wayne Mapp

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DR WAYNE MAPP interviewed by GUYON ESPINER


GUYON If we look back to Anzac Day and look at the battle of 1915 when you look at more than 2700 young New Zealand men losing their lives in that battle, nearly 100 years on, what is it that we are commemorating there? Are we commemorating sacrifice, independence, the birth of a nation? What are we actually commemorating when we celebrate Anzac Day?

 

WAYNE MAPP – Defence Minister 
I think it’s all of that, in fact. If you think of the young New Zealanders who go to Anzac now in increasing numbers, they are obviously remembering sacrifice, but they’re also thinking about what it means to be a New Zealander in contemporary times. So I think all of us when we think of Anzac are really thinking of it through those multiple lenses, because there have been many battles, but the Gallipoli campaign stands out – in part, really, because it’s probably the first real identification of what it means to be a New Zealander.

GUYON Do you think we’ll always celebrate Anzac Day? It’s been a public holiday since 1921. Will we always continue to celebrate that battle forever?

DR MAPP Well, certainly... Yes, I believe we will, actually, because it is so intimately bound up with our own nationhood, and that is what actually makes it unique It is about sacrifice, but it’s also about what it means to be a New Zealander – not just in 1915, but also in 2011.

GUYON We’re approaching the 10-year anniversary of the current major conflict that we’re fighting in in Afghanistan . When we spoke to you last year on this programme, you were confident about the course of the war. You were confident about the capacity that the Afghan government was generating. Are you still, as you sit here today, confident about the course of the war in Afghanistan ?

DR MAPP Yes, I am. In fact, you can see progress having been made in the fact that you saw a transition occurring in Bamiyan – one of the first five provinces for transition to occur – indicates gains. Obviously it’s going to take time – that’s why we’ve said through to 2014 that we’re there in Bamiyan. But clearly the government is building its capability. Clearly it’s both in. governance, both in economics, and also in security.

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24th April, 2011 

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2011-09-22


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